just using this issue. >> bret: i fully understand that, rich. i guess my point is how can the authorities stop someone who perhaps has no indication of trouble in the past? that is the real challenge. >> the challenge for law enforcement, not just here but everywhere. we need more community approach. we need everyone working together on this issue to identify people that, identify where the criminals are purchasing fire arms. to identify where violent crimes are taking place and the guns are used. to identify criminals that are putting the guns in the hands of criminals. you know it's about crimes gun and crime problem, violent crime problem. in order to solve this we all need to work together. all federal agencies, local police, community group, gun dealers, the media. the only way we'll sol tv is a combined effort and make the country what we love and respect. >> bret: sure. these were legally purchased and registered guns of the mother. >> i'm not going to comment about the evidence right now because it's too early to tell. we don't have witn